Essential minimalists gear check list for jungle trail tours

I just purchased this to see if its a viable option to pack with my bivy sack and down quilt.
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Haven't weighed it yet. You want the matrress to have a good insulation "R value". 80% of using it an a hammock is to keep you warm, this doesnt look like it has a good R value with the cut outs.







bigntall said:
I just purchased this to see if its a viable option to pack with my bivy sack and down quilt.
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KTMphil said:
Haven't weighed it yet. You want the matrress to have a good insulation "R value". 80% of using it an a hammock is to keep you warm, this doesnt look like it has a good R value with the cut outs.
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As stated in my post above it won't be for the hammock but for my bivy sack.
 
It's all relative. Compared to winter camping in the Sierra's it isn't that bloody cold. If it works for three season camping in the states no reason for me to believe it won't work in SEA. I'm more curious to see how small it packs with my bivy sack. Bottom line you're using air space as a barrier against the ground. I'm hoping the air, whether it be contained in an air pad or caught between the bivy and the ground in the open spaces of the above pad won't make that much of a difference in terms of R value. The manufacture also claims your down bag/quilt can then loft in the open spaces providing more R value than just an air space. Won't know for sure until its tested.
 
Guy's i am looking at upgrading my hammock after my close call on my last Laos trip, the one i have whilst not expensive has been ok it has a built in net that you secure from what i guess would be a the line you would fix a tarp. I am looking to add a tarp sheet any idea's where to get one in Thailand ?

Also i am looking for a sleeping matt, last time i used the hammock the mozi's had a feast on my bum all night biting through the hammock fabric !!!
 
Bob - Get a Hennessy Hammock


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& a Thermarest Neo Air mattress



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Hennessey looks nice but expensive. There's a Guy manufacturers decent ones in Chiang Khong. you can view and buy them at Tamilla Guest House.
He's a bicycle tourer I think.

shouldn't need a mat to keep the mossies out, the material should be of sufficient thickness and close weave. I will have a look at them again this afternoon.
They also sell a seperate rain Cover.

Think it was a 'Siam Hammock' , and can be used as a tent also, but the website seems to be dead.
looked like a nice bit of kit
 
KTMphil said:
Not much more than a first service on a Honda CB 500 X?
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I'm pretty sure I'll have to do an intermediate service at 6k for peace of mind anyway, so I guess there's a tenner difference. gonna need Therapy or one of these :MG


found the Website. don't know if I'm allowed to post it

http://www.siamhammock.net/
 
Back to hammocks, i'm going to give this "jungle hammock" a try made by Tom Craytor of Mosquito hammocks, made in Thailand $150 inc free shipping, good reports on all the hammock forums and it's double bottomed.

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Hi Phil,
From what I understand the owner Tom Claytor lives in Hua Hin just made the transfer to his Bangkok bank account the site www. Mosquitohammocks.com has quite a lot different products but the jungle hammock is highly praised, time will tell.
 
bsacbob said:
Hi Phil,
From what I understand the owner Tom Claytor lives in Hua Hin just made the transfer to his Bangkok bank account the site www. Mosquitohammocks.com has quite a lot different products but the jungle hammock is highly praised, time will tell.
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Bring it to cnx if you can and we'll do a test against the Hennessey.... If it's good it should be promoted many will want one.

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bsacbob said:
Hi Phil,
From what I understand the owner Tom Claytor lives in Hua Hin just made the transfer to his Bangkok bank account the site www. Mosquitohammocks.com has quite a lot different products but the jungle hammock is highly praised, time will tell.
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Bob, can you please clarify that website address please. I just visited it & it returns a page of links.

Thanks

Ally
 
Looks good yes ???
 
bsacbob said:
Guy's i am looking at upgrading my hammock after my close call on my last Laos trip, the one i have whilst not expensive has been ok it has a built in net that you secure from what i guess would be a the line you would fix a tarp. I am looking to add a tarp sheet any idea's where to get one in Thailand ?

Also i am looking for a sleeping matt, last time i used the hammock the mozi's had a feast on my bum all night biting through the hammock fabric !!!
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Hahaha, no doubt a glorious night with half the blood being removed from your derriere by the mozzies. The double layer hammock is a definite leg up on single layer for mozzie protection. Also throwing any spare clothes you're not wearing underneath you will give you additional protection. Another option if to protect you from the mozzies is an underquilt, more comfortable than a pad but generally sold overseas. Though if you have some one creative over here with a needle (easy to find) no reason you couldn't get one made up out of old down jackets from the second hand clothing places.
 
lakota said:
Hennessey looks nice but expensive. There's a Guy manufacturers decent ones in Chiang Khong. you can view and buy them at Tamilla Guest House.
He's a bicycle tourer I think.

shouldn't need a mat to keep the mossies out, the material should be of sufficient thickness and close weave. I will have a look at them again this afternoon.
They also sell a seperate rain Cover.

Think it was a 'Siam Hammock' , and can be used as a tent also, but the website seems to be dead.
looked like a nice bit of kit
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those are indeed better than the cheap hammocks however they do not compare in terms of packabilty to the Hennessey. The Siam Hammock I saw was about 24" long rolled into a sausage shape and about 8" in diameter. They also have fiberglass poles if I remember correctly which are generally awkward to pack on the bikes. Not so bad I guess if you are on street bikes.
 
bsacbob said:
Guy's i am looking at upgrading my hammock after my close call on my last Laos trip, the one i have whilst not expensive has been ok it has a built in net that you secure from what i guess would be a the line you would fix a tarp. I am looking to add a tarp sheet any idea's where to get one in Thailand ?

Also i am looking for a sleeping matt, last time i used the hammock the mozi's had a feast on my bum all night biting through the hammock fabric !!!
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Bob if the guy from Claytor hammocks can't rig you up a tarp you can find some in Silicone impregnated nylon ones that pack small in Big C, at least you could here in CNX.
 
bigntall said:
those are indeed better than the cheap hammocks however they do not compare in terms of packabilty to the Hennessey. The Siam Hammock I saw was about 24" long rolled into a sausage shape and about 8" in diameter. They also have fiberglass poles if I remember correctly which are generally awkward to pack on the bikes. Not so bad I guess if you are on street bikes.
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So how small does the hennessey pack with Tarp ?

The Siam hammock has a double layer base so you can put things in between like the Jungle hammock, It's pretty well made. there's a groundsheet included which add's to the pack size but will be useful in many ways. the fibreglass poles , 8 of them are 6 inch's long , so no problems packing. the tarp can be used as a poncho also. The whole pack is 13" long , not 24" .
Don't think it can be beat pricewise. I would only sleep in the hammock in emergency's anyway, I'd still try to make it into a tent if I was in a village , can't sleep on my back unless I'm pissed . Spent many many nights in my Hilleburg Akto but can't get used to hammocks.

If I was buying a Hammock to live in or use regularly then I'd buy the best one I could afford. The Jungle Hammock looks the Business
 
lakota said:
So how small does the hennessey pack with Tarp ?
The Siam hammock has a double layer base so you can put things in between like the Jungle hammock, It's pretty well made. there's a groundsheet included which add's to the pack size but will be useful in many ways. the fibreglass poles , 8 of them are 6 inch's long , so no problems packing. the tarp can be used as a poncho also. The whole pack is 13" long , not 24" .
Don't think it can be beat pricewise. I would only sleep in the hammock in emergency's anyway, I'd still try to make it into a tent if I was in a village , can't sleep on my back unless I'm pissed . Spent many many nights in my Hilleburg Akto but can't get used to hammocks.

If I was buying a Hammock to live in or use regularly then I'd buy the best one I could afford. The Jungle Hammock looks the Business
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Look at post#76 in this thread for the packed size. The hammock in that pic is a Warbonnet and generally a a couple feet longer than the Hennessey and wider (I've owned both).. That pic includes the complete double layer hammock, built in bug net, tarp that is 3 times larger than the standard henneseey tarp, and down quilts (upper and lower) comfortable down to 40*F, and straps. When I saw the packed size of the Siam it seemed a hell of a lot longer than 12"s. Maybe the model I saw was an older model and the new ones are more compact. The upside of the Siam was that it could be converted to a tent. If you can't sleep on your back avoid a hammock as you'll be unhappy. No reason to bother converting one to a tent if you can't sleep on yer back. Just purchase a lightweight tent or Bivy Sack. hammocks are very polarizing, you either love em or hate em. further point , no need for a Double layer if you have a pad or underquilt as they will both prevent mosquito access to your body.
 
OK, here we go -


From left to right: Tarp from Big C 1/2 the size of Hennessey tarp (rain cover), Thermarest Neo Air mattress, Hennessey hammock safari deluxe (bigger and heavier but sleeps two people), Thermarest Navis sleeping bag (tried sleeping without, you cant beat having a real sleeping bag)



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Without the tarp the other 3 items compress pretty small, even all fit in the hammock bag


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Hennessey hammock safari deluxe comes in at about 1.7 KG






Thermarest Navis sleeping bag 650 grams


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Thermarest Neo Air mattress 275 grams

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Big C tarp / rain fly 700 grams


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So the total weight is 3.3 KG
 
Thanks for the data point on the packed size of everything. The Nano7 I don't believe has the bug net and not even sure its an asymmetrical lay which is how to sleep comfortably in a hammock. Though it packs into the size not much bigger than a pack of cigarettes which is really nice.
 
Eh, just wanted to add this to the discussion.
You can sleep on the ground in a Hennesy type hammock.
Just set it low enough so the bottom rests on the ground, crawl in, close it up, lie down on your mat and sleep away like in a normal tent.
The versatility of this made me decide to get a Hennesy (Same as Phil's) after I already had a MSR Hubba Hubba tent ordered and on the way.
 
Lightemup said:
Eh, just wanted to add this to the discussion.
You can sleep on the ground in a Hennesy type hammock.
Just set it low enough so the bottom rests on the ground, crawl in, close it up, lie down on your mat and sleep away like in a normal tent.
The versatility of this made me decide to get a Hennesy (Same as Phil's) after I already had a MSR Hubba Hubba tent ordered and on the way.
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Will even work as a tent from the bike


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Or as a hammock

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Just to update just got back from a break with my son and my jungle hammock from Tom Craytor has arrived ahead of me.

The whole pack inc skins, tarp and hammock comes in at 1.9 kg, will try to call over to compare with Phils Hennessy next week for quality.
 
bsacbob said:
Just to update just got back from a break with my son and my jungle hammock from Tom Craytor has arrived ahead of me.

The whole pack inc skins, tarp and hammock comes in at 1.9 kg, will try to call over to compare with Phils Hennessy next week for quality.
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Bob- 1.9kg for a single jungle hammock is pretty heavy, I wonder where all the weight is? Does the 1.9kg include the rain fly? will be good to compare them.
 
Phil,
Yeah that includes everything inc stuff sack, straps, snake skins etc. The website says 1.5kg, may be my scales are off or the snake skins are bloody heavy ;)
 
bsacbob brought over his new www.mosquitohammock.com for a test



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It's extremely well built. The designer says the loops in the bug net are for putting a stick ot bamboo through to hold the bug net away from you more. With it just tied up high it worked fine.




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Zip entry on one side, getting in by sitting first wasn't a big deal


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Looks like to maximize the space inside it needs 2 tie points at each end, with only one tie point at each end it worked fine, bug net was sufficiently help away from you


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Good quality rain fly and not too big included, total weight including the rain fly is 1.9kg



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While we had it out for the first time we fitted the "snake skins" (packing covers), so that its quick to rig up next time, they side back from the middle opening the hammock.




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All in all an excellent hammock locally made.









Ally said:
Thanks Pounce



www.mosquitohammock.com
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