"THE" most north trail from the Salaween River mapped into Thailand

KTMphil

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This actually worked only because our plans got sidetracked, if they hadn't, we would never have been able to get this remote area mapped. :MJ


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Yes it looked like our plans were cut short before we had really started, but was it a blessing in disguise?
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River, mountains, but where's the boat?
 
It all started with looking at Google Maps satellite imagery of the Salaween River way north of Ban Tha Tha Fang. There is a trail north of Ban Tha Tha Fang that leads west towards Mae Sariang that some guys have done, we were looking for something way way north of there, LR knew there were a loads of refugee villages up there, so there had to be trails.


This caught my eye way north --- could this be the trail from the Salaween River we'd be looking for????


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Cool, can't wait to see more!
 
Keep 'em coming.
 
The curiosity was unbearable, I showed Alex the satellite image print outs and explained what I thought, it got his juices flowing and we made a plan to go. LR said "I think that's just a river guys", more on who was right later.


So a WR 250 F, a KTM 300 2-smoker, 100 liters of fuel, 30 liters of water, food and camping gear in the Vigo, off we head to Mae Sam Laep, 43km SW of Mae Sariang to try rent a boat for a few days.


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There's an adequate Guest house in Mae Sam Leap, almost opposite the steps down to the "harbor" - The Salaween GH co-ords:



N17.98093

E97.73896

or

N17 58.856

E97 44.338



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300 bht, fan, cold shower & clean

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Fantastic view looking west across the Salaween River into Myanmar

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The Myanmar Military Checkpoint on the western side of the Salaween River, opposite Ban Mae Sam Laep


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The next thing you have to do is find this man "Khow Sai". He is the man that can organize you a boat, he speaks good English (remember you're in Karen tribe region where many don't even speak Thai) and he can translate everything you need to the boat driver and negotiate a price. Motorcycle tour groups have been using him for years to organize boats & never the tourist-ripoff has been experienced with this guy, he's a good guy.


He's not just a tout on the dock, give him some respect.


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A rule of thumb is that they charge 1,300 bht a day for boat use.


We wanted a boat for 4 days to stay with us, so we could do as much surveying as we could way north, he came back with a price of 5,000 bht which we accepted.
 
So boat organized, Khow Sai had an idea of where we wanted to go, next hurdle was to get clearance from the Thai Army. Way north there is a very sensitive area, very remote - no hospitals, no doctors, no telephone reception, no cars, no electricity, no police, no army etc..... if things went wrong, we could have a serious problem, only with refugee status scattered villages for assistance.


Khow Sai explained where we wanted to go with the bikes and it looked like a NO from the Army, which really dampened my spirits after all this effort.


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I explained that we were leaving the pick up in Mae Sam Laep so we had to return which then got the Army officer thinking - he radioed his boss to ask permission


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He came out of the building ---- "OK"!!! - Fantastic!!!!



Our details were registered with the Army


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Fuel, water, food, camping gear, bikes etc..... were then all taken down to the "harbor" and loaded onto the boat, we were nearly on our way.




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Thai Army fast skiffs with huge Yamaha outboard engines

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Pick nick by the river



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Long tail boats in the "harbor"

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Everything loaded and off north up the Salaween River

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Our driver

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Headed north - Myanmar on the left, Thailand on the right


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River cargo


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As you head north, there are several military checkpoints that you have to register with and explain your plans and get permission to proceed. You're in an area where people have no passports and no ID, things could get crazy very easily.


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Fuel for sale on the Myanmar river bank

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A Myanmar village

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Thai Army look-out post

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We estimated we were driving into about 10-15 km/h for river current, the GPS showed us doing between 21-25 km/h over the ground, so these boats are doing 35 km/h through the water, very efficient.


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Alex about to take a nap



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We have a waypoint in the GPS of where we want to get to on the river bank that matches the satellite imagery of what we think is the track. Pretty excited, we approach the river bank



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We get out and do a survey ...... doesnt look good, we can't see any trails along the side of the river


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One option would be to ride up the river, but we have no idea of how deep etc......


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Boat driver shakes his head and says there's NO trail there - LR was right


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We ask the boar driver if he knows of any trails further north, he says there's none (more on that later - there is). He says 10km south there's some trails, so bikes back in the boat.



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Floating house on the Thai side


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Back down stream

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Long boat used to transport herds of buffalo that are farmed in the area



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10km south, we unload the bikes, it's now 3pm.


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We decide to go for a 3 hour ride, try and link up to some trails we already have and leave all the gear in the boat. We tell the boat driver to stay there, we'll be back in 3 hours ("sam Shamung") - he says ok so off we go


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Plenty of trails around, we do some good poking around


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We got some good new data and linked it to existing trails, a productive afternoon


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Feeling like the day wasn't wasted, we return to the river bank to find our boat. We get there in the dark - no boat. That means no water, no food, no camping gear, where the hell has he gone??


Also no moon - so its pitch black


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Lots of shouting and screaming, we listen but no reply, the boat isn't anywhere near, now what are we going to do? We see a light coming down the mountain and to our luck its a couple of guys from the ranger station, they say come up with us , we follow. We leave the bikes there in case the boat returns and he'll know where we are.



They feed us give us coffee and a room to sleep

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In our room - the map on the wall immediately catches our eye and we call the rangers guys in for a discussion


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In Thai we talk about villages in the area and trails and get onto talking about trails further north (if the boat had been there we would never have been fortunate enough to be getting this information). The Rangers tell us that the locals had cut a trail from the river to a refugee village called Ban Po Mue, way way north. They say its only single track but doable all the way back to Mae Sariang ---- suddenly we have big grins om our face. "If" the boat comes back tomorrow thats where we headed.





We ask them if there are ANY more trails more north from the river that will link up to Mae Sariang, they say this is the most north trail, there are no more north from the river that link up passed this one.





Hopefully our destination tomorrow - Ban Po Mue ( Muer)


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Beds for the night in the Ranger HQ


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What a view they have , here looking south down the Salaween River, Myanmar on the right side



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Next morning the rangers were kind enough to feed and water us


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The guy on the right in the grey track suit is Kun Sing, one of the nicest, most professional Thai's i've ever met, we owe him huge for his generosity & vast knowledge, an amazing man.


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Fantastic stuff and great pictures as usual Phil. Have just converted all the tracks and waypoints so that it is ready to be included in the map and I emailed the stuff to the guy who is taking over all the map making stuff from me. He emailed me that the map should be back in an hour or so and be ready for the GPS as well as being able to load into Mapsource/BaseCamp.
 
24V Solar array that keeps the Oro Forest Ranger HQ powered


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Keeping the place tidy


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They radio around and through radio relays they say they think they've located our boat and sure enough, 10 am along he comes


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Our boat arrives, the Rangers explain to the driver where the trail is , he doesn't want to go there, says he doesnt have enough diesel (its about 3 hours north of where we are by boat into the river current with rapids) and he doesnt know the river up there. We beg one of the Rangers who know the area to drive the boat and he agrees. After some hard talk, the driver/ boat owner reluctantly surrenders, basically he doesnt want to buy more fuel, we've already seen fuel for sale further north when looking for the non-existent trail.


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Off we go, this is now exciting shit, who knows how bad this ledge trail way up there will be.

Load everything back on and off we go

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They bring the bikes much further aft in the boat now, the Salaween further north is nasty with lost of rapids and whirlpools.


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Pulling in on the Myanmar side to get diesel

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Curious Myanmar refugees

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Alex in Myanmar having a chat

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Our driver in the green sarong trying to act that there's no diesel, i tell him if he doesnt get diesel we're not going to pay him


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That changes things and then the boat is filled with diesel


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Our diesel power unit, probably a truck engine in its previous life


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Drying produce

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A couple of locals hear we headed north and hitch a ride with us

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Our new driver, one of the Oro Forest Park Rangers, the river was nasty up here, rocks, rapids, whirlpools


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Rapids ahead


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Letting the locals off further north in Myamar


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2 more hours of moving time north at 22 kts - so over 40km more north in the boat and we finally reach the landing which is about 8 km west of the refugee village of Ban Po Mue.


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Everything looks ok so far, a quick survey looks like we can get the bikes off of the river bank, so time to unload everything


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It has a real remote feel about it up here, kind of un-nerving in a way, once we're in that jungle we're on our own for sure


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At the top of the river bank there's one house - the locals there confirm that there's a ledge trail to Ban Po Mue and you can continue to Mae Sariang on single track


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They show us which way to go


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Alex and I both have fuel bladders with about 8 litres of fuel for back up in case we see something and want to go off exploring


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Bikes all prep'd., time to head off to the E/SE and look for the village of Ban Po Mue, which should be only 8 km to the east, we have no idea what the terrain will be like.


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We thought it would be easy to follow a trail, something we hadn't thought of was that there was tons of deal leaves everywhere, so we couldn't see where the main trails were


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Worst case we could always follow our tracks back to the river


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It was obvious that the trails hadn't been used much, they were covered in growth and leaves and very overgrown

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The 8km to Ban Po Mue were very steep and single track, you can see how much elevation we have and we're still near the Salaween river





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After the single track, ledge rollercoaster, we finally get east to the village of Ban Po Mue


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There was even a Christian church there maybe from the Burma colonial missionary days

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For somewhere so poor, this house was amazing

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A quick stop in Ban Po Mue, the off east to make the next village before sunset


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The trail was still single track with some nasty wash outs in places


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We take a wrong turn and 2km down the trail, end up in the village of Ban Cho Si Doe Nuea


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Nice to see Honda Wave's here as we know the trails must be ok


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We ask if there's somewhere we can sleep, they direct us down to the school where we meet Jeab who's the teacher there.


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We ask her if we can stretch our hammocks out here she says no problem, lovely lady.


I'm on the bottom - Alex upstairs

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