Here comes the new Minsk Adventure Bike, nice!

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A large part of this thread is lost. In the next few days I will try to rebuilt it.
In the mean time Zongshen Ryuka replied on their Facebook account today that sales of the RX3 in Thailand is planned to start June 1st.

The Zongshen RX3 is the same bike as the M1NSK TRX300.
 
That M1nsk is a nice looking machine time will tell on build quality

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I believe I have read somewhere that Zongshen has made more than 250.000 of these NC250 engines, used in the RX3 and many different Chinese bikes.
So this will be a well developed engine, should work OK.
 
Target sales price 100.000 baht for the RX3 in Thailand.
 
For the money it looks a pretty good package, let's see when it arrived.


Nice new signature Marcel :worthy:
 
Thanks Bob, I hope Ryuka can make the said sales price, it would indeed be a good price.
I for one would certainly try it for that money!
 
Front tire 100/R90-18", rear 130/R70-17" hmmmm that will be difficult finding suitable replacement tires.......
Bridgestone TW35 front, TW36 (120/80-17) rear?
 
Ryuka announced on their Facebook a delay for the introduction of the RX3 in Thailand till August of this year.
 
Usually when I come across anything Chinese I say: hands off, it's junk!

But a friend of mine has had his Ryuka 125 for years and several thousand km and says it hasn't had any problems...
 
brake034 said:
I for one would certainly try it for that money!
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Just so I understand clearly...we are talking about a 250cc with 18Hp weighing 175Kg dry?

Sorry Marcel but no matter how cheap, for 175Kg of bike there are at least 500cc and 60Hp missing...just my opinion
 
An average horse weighs 500 kilo and is powered by 1 horsepower.
 
Well, enjoy that one fast mile, because the rest of the ride will be at a walk. I prefer going a bit more distance each day.

Endurance rides for horses go from 60 to 100 miles per day.
 
Seen one yet? had a look at the Zongshen RX3 the other month (the Minsk is just a re-branded / re=badged Zongshen), only looks like a ADV / DS bike and them panniers (size) are only good for a laugh or two....

Would take a Honda CRF250 any day of the week before even considering a "Minsk" Zongshen RX3.....
Never ever buy first generation MIC motor vehicles, well known ~ they use the customer as test mules and sometimes get the second and third generation right after the initial run and release to paying customers and the complaints...
 
The Enfield 350 is about 170 kilo and has 19 HP, here is Phil and Som on their Epic India trip: link> http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-...9-tour-around-north-india-royal-enfields.html.
Hardly a ADV either, limited luggage capacity and high in the mountains only ~9 HP remain, I think it is a mindset.

The RX3 has been out in China for over a year now, I am just curious about the bike and like to see this "big bike" market development in Thailand.
Good to see Ryuka is at least taking an effort, knowing that Tiger motorcycles is almost dead now.

Some people will go for a BMW, others choose a Ducati, for each bike there is a certain market.
 
wow u read my mind!! wanted to reply:a CRF with camel bags/box will do much better n go about anywhere (135000B in TH)..just a few mods and voila' ,first thing the seat !the original is solid n penetrating! :)

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Seen one yet? had a look at the Zongshen RX3 the other month (the Minsk is just a re-branded / re=badged Zongshen), only looks like a ADV / DS bike and them panniers (size) are only good for a laugh or two....

Would take a Honda CRF250 any day of the week before even considering a "Minsk" Zongshen RX3.....
Never ever buy first generation MIC motor vehicles, well known ~ they use the customer as test mules and sometimes get the second and third generation right after the initial run and release to paying customers and the complaints...
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Royal Enfield ,expecially 350cc there is NO performance or acceleration to speak about...just going to transport you/luggage slowly from A to B

brake034 said:
The Enfield 350 is about 170 kilo and has 19 HP, here is Phil and Som on their Epic India trip: link> http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-...9-tour-around-north-india-royal-enfields.html.
Hardly a ADV either, limited luggage capacity and high in the mountains only ~9 HP remain, I think it is a mindset.

The RX3 has been out in China for over a year now, I am just curious about the bike and like to see this "big bike" market development in Thailand.
Good to see Ryuka is at least taking an effort, knowing that Tiger motorcycles is almost dead now.

Some people will go for a BMW, others choose a Ducati, for each bike there is a certain market.
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bsacbob said:
For the money it looks a pretty good package, let's see when it arrived.
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Yes, they are looking better but overall quality takes a long time to catch up!

For 100K I rather go with a 2 year old CRF with 30,000km...
 
brake034 said:
The RX3 has been out in China for over a year now.....
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......and not been very popular to be honest and still owners trying to sort out problems one year down the road. Same goes for the Shineray X5, now they sell the second generation with metal tank and without oil cooler, silver engine, wheel - spoke problems still the same as with the first generation X5.

Nothing against MIC bikes, use two Jialing JH600 (sidecar / solo) for years as cheap daily runners in China but would never buy a MIC bike outside China due to known problems with parts supply outside China and for certain bike brands the reliability and warranty / service work has to be considered as well.

Took them two bike generations to fix the stalling issues with the Jialng JH600 (solo) but the Jialing JH600 (sidecar) never had the issues as they are used by the Chinese defence / police departments and military. My solo Jialing JH600 is the third generation bike and never had the ECU (stalling) issues as owners of the first two Jialing JH600 (solo) generations.
My Jialing JH600 (sidecar) was stalling / ECU trouble free as well from day one of ownership.

Outside China, way more choices on reliable bike brands from all over the world.
The MIC bikes in general and parts supply, service, warranty, etc. still has a very long way to go.

Well, Honda manufacturers the CRF250 in Thailand and to me personally it's a no brainer to get one over a Minsk / Zongshen RX3 any day, not my $$$$'s ~ not up to me to decide.... nuff' said....have a nice and relaxed day....


 
TB-Racing said:
Outside China, way more choices on reliable bike brands from all over the world.

Well, Honda manufacturers the CRF250 in Thailand and to me personally it's a no brainer to get one over a Minsk / Zongshen RX3 any day, not my $$$$'s ~ not up to me to decide.... nuff' said....have a nice and relaxed day....
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Right - why would anyone go for a Chinese bike which has more than just "teething problems" when there are quality products available?

I wouldn't even at anything Chinese, even Taiwanese products have a long way to go.
 
1) I am not going to buy a RX3, at least not until I have convinced myself that it would be a worthwhile experiment.
Monitoring the market is far more interesting for me, to see how the Thai big bike market develops and matures.
The influence of China versus Japan is very interesting, the decline of Tiger motorcycles.
The big bike market here is in far more movement than in Europe and that's interesting to watch!
The new ASEAN free market in 2015 is another interesting development, what will happen with import duty on motorcycles, currently excluded from the FTA's.

2) Recently we see Honda Thailand also struggling with quality issues, many angry customers who own an early CB500, CRF quality issues with cam chains and tensioners?! Interesting to note that warrantee issues with Honda are handled far from smoothly.

2) Have a look here, Ron's report on a ride in China, on a Chinese bike: link>http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-forum/china-ride-reports/3707-yunnan-virgins-impressions-4.html

3) I like the Jialing's, especially the sidecar one. Too bad they do not sell them in Thailand.

4) Ryuka Zongshen has a fairly large distribution network here. Especially the small bikes, the Z-One RK200 and their Bull trikes are quite popular in Thailand. I regularly see the Lifan KP150 streetbike around here too. Proves to me there is a certain market for them!
 
i managed to f*k up both seals (front forks ) of my new CRF within 4 months! first the left in Cambo then the right ones,but the dealer in CM (near airport plaza)had no problems replacing them. they actually replaced the whole forks ,i only had to wait a couple weeks request.can't complain really ,yes not best quality ovviusly ,but i am preatty sure it was also due to heavy off road..let's see...
but i'm sure is a weak part that will go again at somepoint ,hopefully not soon :/

brake034 said:
2) Recently we see Honda Thailand also struggling with quality issues, many angry customers who own an early CB500, CRF quality issues with cam chains and tensioners?! Interesting to note that warrantee issues with Honda are handled far from smoothly.
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Happy to hear that you have a good service/warrantee experience with Honda Forest/Rider.
I am pretty sure that supply of at least >50% of all the CRF parts is M.I.C.
 
As we know, u get what uvpay..at 135k is a nice little bike.but my point wasn' t budget when i bought it. I actually was checkin out the CBX or ADV oriented vehicles.then i was drawned to it ,sleek design n remembered when i had a YZ.. thought the crf goes in places where heavier bikes will not ,or will be more difficult to ride to..in theory with a crf u can do flips if u are capable too .( I can't) ;)
To me feels like an estension of myself! Light n Easy to drive just shiftin body weight on the saddle...love it


brake034 said:
Happy to hear that you have a good service/warrantee experience with Honda Forest/Rider.
I am pretty sure that supply of at least >50% of all the CRF parts is M.I.C.
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Forest/Rider said:
As we know, u get what uvpay..at 135k is a nice little bike.but my point wasn' t budget when i bought it. I actually was checkin out the CBX or ADV oriented vehicles.then i was drawned to it ,sleek design n remembered when i had a YZ.. thought the crf goes in places where heavier bikes will not ,or will be more difficult to ride to..in theory with a crf u can do flips if u are capable too .( I can't) ;)
To me feels like an estension of myself! Light n Easy to drive just shiftin body weight on the saddle...love it
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Same here! I first wanted the 500X but realized that it doesn't have much better suspension than the F or R.

I wanted a bike that is light and quick, has some fork travel to iron out potholes and speed bumps and that I can jump curbs with.

So I got the CRF250M and I don't regret it!

Now speed bumps are just that - bumps to take at speed! Fun.

I don't need more than 20hp and a top speed of 130 in Thailand.
 
brake034 said:
I like the Jialing's, especially the sidecar one. Too bad they do not sell them in Thailand.
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Spot on, the JL JH600 sidecars are good solid fun to ride and gear / kids easily transported.
Everyone asking, must honestly say, prefer the JL JH600 sidecar over the solo Jialing.


ps: check if Jialing China / Thailand (they are present in Thailand yet?) able to assist or can you import one or a dozen yourself with enough spares to last for a few years....
 
Thump said:
I don't need more than 20hp and a top speed of 130 in Thailand.
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true! speeding in Thailand means real danger ,a kid driving/on the phone that cut in front of u at 130 is already big trouble!but anyway 'off road' speakin'..heavier bikes proved to be not the ones to go in the wild....i own/ed several other (more powerful) vehicles,now the crf is the ones i usually fire up n go :ride:
 
TB-Racing said:
ps: check if Jialing China / Thailand (they are present in Thailand yet?) able to assist or can you import one or a dozen yourself with enough spares to last for a few years....
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I am pretty sure Jialing works together with Honda on the production of engines, lawnmowers etc. There is a long established JV between the two companies.
Guess one of the contract details is a limitation in competition, that's maybe why Jialing bikes hardly are exported?

I have not been able to find a Jialing import company in Thailand, trying to import a small batch without manufacturer support is almost impossible in Thailand at the moment.

Have never driven a bike with a sidecar but I hear it's quite different steering a sidecar bike compared to a solo bike?
 
Bikes with side cars are friggin' dangerous if you don't know what you're doing!

You have to "drive" them like a car.

I remember when the owner of a HD/Kawaski dealership was killed when he took a Russian Ural side car rig out for a spin.

It flipped and trapped him underneath.
 
Indications are the RX3 will be available soon in Thailand at the Bangkok Bike Fest July 2-6. Suggested prices range from 69K Baht to 115k Baht and sold through the P-Bikes.

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i'll go check it out..luckily i fly to bkk on the 6th :) last day of bike fest sounds nice too!


bsacbob said:
Indications are the RX3 will be available soon in Thailand at the Bangkok Bike Fest July 2-6. Suggested prices range from 69K Baht to 115k Baht and sold through the P-Bikes.

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Is it me? Isn't it a bit unusual for an adventure bike to have upside down forks, with the seals low down and exposed to the muck and grime?
 
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