DRZ Brain trust

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[LivinLOS]

Sef, can I hire you as my lawyer next time I need one?

Barrack rooms only I am afraid

 

[screamingeagle]

In your listing you say its a SM.. So it has to have supermoto 17 inch wheels and the upside down forks yes ?? Otherwise its not a DRZ400SM..

Then you ALSO state "Yoko Super 7 rims (21' & 17") plus offroad tyres" So it has a set of dirt wheels right ?? Or just rims and tires and no hubs ?? Or is it not a DRZ400SM after all this ?? I mean really... Its not going to turn out this isnt even an SM and its a DRZ-S or something ??


I have no idea why I dont see the picture.. theres no 'attachment' for me.. Lew also stated he cant see the picture or pictures. Logged out and logged back in, has no effect. Codecs all up to date and fine and anyway JPEG image files wouldnt need a codec.

There you go back at it again. You said you knew the bike now you pretend you don't. An SM comes with 17' wheels yes. If you buy a Porsche and put RUF wheels on is it still not a Porsche??
So you know the bike and that it's an SM and what that means.
Hopefully you can read unless someone is reading for you and you quoted the word tyres out of the original post so this is just you trying to stir s**t as usual. Good luck.

Notice you did not admit or deny to being a septic. Interesting. Ashamed?

While CODEC is usually thought of as in terms of video or motion, Jpeg still uses one. As you have been wrong about most things I thought I would suggest something to you as it is only a standard .jpg file. Based on everything else I expect you can see the pic but cannot help yourself stir.

 

[LivinLOS]

There you go back at it again. You said you knew the bike now you pretend you don't. An SM comes with 17' wheels yes. If you buy a Porsche and put RUF wheels on is it still not a Porsche??
So you know the bike and that it's an SM and what that means.
Hopefully you can read unless someone is reading for you and you quoted the word tyres out of the original post so this is just you trying to stir s**t as usual. Good luck.

So much confusion.. Has to rank up there for listings full of holes. So its a supermoto thats no longer in supermoto trim !! Like if you buy a RUF porsche, take all the RUF bits off it, and return it to stock, is it still a RUF porsche ??

So to ask again as I cant tell if your avoiding the question even tho you criticse anyone who makes assumptions.. This is the SM spec, with upside down forks, and a large front brake rotor, thats been converted to dirt wheels ?? But only on the front wheel ?? So to put it back to a fully SM spec it just needs a new 17 inch front rim and new tires ??

And your running 21/17 (very odd.. 21/18 is dirt wheels.. 21/19 is motorcross.. 17 are super moto.. What tires can you even get in 21/17 as a set ??) ??

Notice you did not admit or deny to being a septic. Interesting. Ashamed?

Not a bit of it.. I am a pikey.. Septic would be an upgrade.

While CODEC is usually thought of as in terms of video or motion, Jpeg still uses one. As you have been wrong about most things I thought I would suggest something to you as it is only a standard .jpg file. Based on everything else I expect you can see the pic but cannot help yourself stir.

Not only I dont see it, you might notice Lew doesnt also.. In fact no one responded they could see it only Lew saying he cant.. Also when you quote a post with a successful attachment in it using this forum software you get the {ATTACH=CONFIG]99999[/ATTACH} VbCode (without curly brackets).. But if I quote your first post of that sales thread it doesnt come up.. I am wondering if your upload failed ??

Can you just repost it and some others.. The lad whose potentially interested wants an SM bike, is based in bangkok and needs some kind of plate (or I would suggest Max's Husky for performance).

Lastly.. As the book is unreliable, and the frame numbers modded.. How do you know its an 06 ??

 

[LUFC]

Sef, can I hire you as my lawyer next time I need one?

+1 Johnny. It was almost worth reading that thread to see obfuscation used in the correct context. You had me reaching for the dictionary with that one Sef!

 

[LivinLOS]

+1 Johnny. It was almost worth reading that thread to see obfuscation used in the correct context. You had me reaching for the dictionary with that one Sef!

Word of the day bog paper... Amazing how fast you pick it up.

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I am just waiting for the pics of this modified SM.. Seriously, does anyone else see it ??

They seem me rollin.. they be hatin..

 

[crs]

http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-forum/attachments/classifieds/26822d1392373398-suzuki-2006-drz400-sm-48bhp-suzuki-ad1.jpg

http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-forum/classifieds/5091-suzuki-2006-drz400-sm-48bhp.html#post39657

 

[LivinLOS]

Finally !!

But super odd.. It wont repost it or let me download it.. Something is very strange with the forum config on this attachemnt..

And yes.. Those are the SM forks.. But not the SM front brake rotor I think..

 

[LivinLOS]

Isnt this the one phil put a 440 kit into ?? I know he had one of my 440 big bores and I thought it was this one it ended up in ?? Tho he had so many I get confused which one had which.. There were I think 3 ex rossi ones.

I kinda liked those rims with the anodized green strip.. But then again I am a magpie.

 

[screamingeagle]

So much confusion.. Has to rank up there for listings full of holes. So its a supermoto thats no longer in supermoto trim !! Like if you buy a RUF porsche, take all the RUF bits off it, and return it to stock, is it still a RUF porsche ??

So to ask again as I cant tell if your avoiding the question even tho you criticse anyone who makes assumptions.. This is the SM spec, with upside down forks, and a large front brake rotor, thats been converted to dirt wheels ?? But only on the front wheel ?? So to put it back to a fully SM spec it just needs a new 17 inch front rim and new tires ??

And your running 21/17 (very odd.. 21/18 is dirt wheels.. 21/19 is motorcross.. 17 are super moto.. What tires can you even get in 21/17 as a set ??) ??



Not a bit of it.. I am a pikey.. Septic would be an upgrade.



Not only I dont see it, you might notice Lew doesnt also.. In fact no one responded they could see it only Lew saying he cant.. Also when you quote a post with a successful attachment in it using this forum software you get the {ATTACH=CONFIG]99999[/ATTACH} VbCode (without curly brackets).. But if I quote your first post of that sales thread it doesnt come up.. I am wondering if your upload failed ??

Can you just repost it and some others.. The lad whose potentially interested wants an SM bike, is based in bangkok and needs some kind of plate (or I would suggest Max's Husky for performance).

Lastly.. As the book is unreliable, and the frame numbers modded.. How do you know its an 06 ??

There you go again looking for something to pick on again. It is getting a bit pathetic but I will answer what I can just because I enjoy the thread when your not being a wanker.

Correct about just change the front rim and tyres to go back to SM specs.
The 21" tyre is as what was available in the IRC calogue. Pretty sure the front brake is SM spec. but will have to check it
as I do not want to deliver BS and unconfirmed details like you revel in.

Mark & Phil says its a 2006 so call them liars like you did me if you want. Plus I checked some of the common elements of the 2006 model
before I bought it. Another guy looked at it and agreed but as I am not expert or ever will be as I know my limitations unlike what you pretend to be............................ Just amazed after all the incorrect info you have used to derail the sale and your obvious attempts to find fault in everything that people listen to you unless they are bored or know even less..

The pic was seen and commented on by more than 2 people which leads back to you trying to raise your status to s**t stirrer.

Only you said the stamp has been changed because you do not seem to understand that a frame number and a vin number are not always the same depending on country of manufacturer. Over here it is common practice to use the frame number as a vin when there is no plate which is why I believe some of your vin decoding has delivered some weird results.

Yesterday I realised an area where you might have a relevant area of expertise. I was doing some routine maintenance and noticed the clutch side (LHS facing the front) reinforced handguard was missing a bolt. As the alloy element is alloy or dull silver and the plastic component of the handguard is black what colour bolt should be used to replace the missing one?

 

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I can't see the pic of the bike in the original thread as i posted on that thread. Still can't see it on that thread.

 

[LivinLOS]

Correct about just change the front rim and tyres to go back to SM specs.
The 21" tyre is as what was available in the IRC calogue. Pretty sure the front brake is SM spec. but will have to check it

SM is IIRC 310 MM.. Dirt is 240 i think.. It am guessing its just be the optical effect of the 21 rim making it look smaller and now I can see the forks are really SM (could have answered instead of just complaining.. Or even could have just reposted the pic as Chris just did, days ago then it would have answered most of it straight away) you would assume (dangerous) it has to be as the SM has a larger radial mount point from the brake caliper. Its easy to add a spacer to the dirt forks and go out, much harder to go in on the SM forks so would think it has to be.

I wasnt asking you about the 21.. Obviously the odd size combo is the 17 rear tire ?? A 17 / 21 rimset ?? Really ?? Most unusual choice. Especially as my 17 rim is way rearward of the second brake line holder, but slight angles do sometimes do weird tricks. I didnt even know IRC made 17 inch dirt tires. 18/21 is the norm for dirt spec, oddball choice to go different.

Only you said the stamp has been changed because you do not seem to understand that a frame number and a vin number are not always the same depending on country of manufacturer. Over here it is common practice to use the frame number as a vin when there is no plate which is why I believe some of your vin decoding has delivered some weird results.

But I already posted how to decode a suzuki frame number.. All DRZ's, in fact all suzuki motorcycles follow that system and in those bikes frame does = vin. But now you finally admitted its a modified frame number to fit a recycled book thats moot.. It just took a long time before you would come out with it.

I have forwarded the pic over to the lad in bangkok.. But when you stack it up with other recently sold grey books, like hassemans with both SM and dirt wheelsets, big bore, hot cams, FCR carb and a petchaburi plate at 145k asking.. Its certainly no longer cheap, that impression was based on legit book and 2 wheelsets. Still hes keen for an SM needs a book and doesnt know the market well. Will see what he says. You dont seem like the bargaining type.

 

[LivinLOS]

I can't see the pic of the bike in the original thread as i posted on that thread. Still can't see it on that thread.

Or see the 'attachment' link when quoting the post.. And am unable to download it when opening the link Chris put up.. Chris sent it to me on facebook so I could repost.

Checked with 3 browsers.. Am guessing theres something gone haywire there.. Not worth the admins time to look into it tho.

 

[screamingeagle]

SM is IIRC 310 MM.. Dirt is 240 i think.. It am guessing its just be the optical effect of the 21 rim making it look smaller and now I can see the forks are really SM (could have answered instead of just complaining.. Or even could have just reposted the pic as Chris just did, days ago then it would have answered most of it straight away) you would assume (dangerous) it has to be as the SM has a larger radial mount point from the brake caliper. Its easy to add a spacer to the dirt forks and go out, much harder to go in on the SM forks so would think it has to be.

I wasnt asking you about the 21.. Obviously the odd size combo is the 17 rear tire ?? A 17 / 21 rimset ?? Really ?? Most unusual choice. Especially as my 17 rim is way rearward of the second brake line holder, but slight angles do sometimes do weird tricks. I didnt even know IRC made 17 inch dirt tires. 18/21 is the norm for dirt spec, oddball choice to go different.



But I already posted how to decode a suzuki frame number.. All DRZ's, in fact all suzuki motorcycles follow that system and in those bikes frame does = vin. But now you finally admitted its a modified frame number to fit a recycled book thats moot.. It just took a long time before you would come out with it.

I have forwarded the pic over to the lad in bangkok.. But when you stack it up with other recently sold grey books, like hassemans with both SM and dirt wheelsets, big bore, hot cams, FCR carb and a petchaburi plate at 145k asking.. Its certainly no longer cheap, that impression was based on legit book and 2 wheelsets. Still hes keen for an SM needs a book and doesnt know the market well. Will see what he says. You dont seem like the bargaining type.

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No complaints just using the truth to shoot down someone who manipulates facts to suit there own end.

Nah you are at it again. You posted how to decode a VIN number which is easy. Frame numbers are different just like crank & rear wheel HP. Read your own post! I said you do not know how to decode a frame number and you have proven it - get with it.
Also you never answered my question about how many DRZ's posted for sale have you decided to hastle and did you check their green/grey books? Doubt it. You just do not like it when you are proved wrong so many times.

I bargain I just don't give it away for free. I did not see this Hassemans bike advertised! Usually do not hang around forums too much as I have a life in the real world. But the bike sounds like a very good buy. Was it sold this year or late last year on this forum??

Pikey?? Septics use the word Piker. That you? Doubt if a septic would know a Pikey unless in the Ozarks and someone coached them!

 

[LivinLOS]

Drz frame numbers comply to the information I listed.. in the Suzuki bike world frame number equals vin number. That is exactly how you decode them.

I have never seen a motorcycle which did not have matching frame and vin numbers. Care to give me an example ??

Still sure on your wheels ?? Someone fitted a 17 rear ?? You seem to fight to not answer any thing.

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[screamingeagle]

Drz frame numbers comply to the information I listed.. in the Suzuki bike world frame number equals vin number. That is exactly how you decode them.

I have never seen a motorcycle which did not have matching frame and vin numbers. Care to give me an example ??

Still sure on your wheels ?? Someone fitted a 17 rear ?? You seem to fight to not answer any thing.

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I have to give you 1. Only one. All the rest of the blurb I have read from you has been used in a manner to s**t stir. Thats your prerogative of course. Like I said trolling
when it suits you and have nothing better to do.
Anyway last year i had to replace the tyres on 3 bikes and the DRZ has an 18" rim. You were right about that! My mistake. Yes I make them and own up to them
again unlike all of yours. Biut it would be a bit much to expect from you wouldn't it?
Although all the fuss about 1". You a little bit sensitive there?

Frame and VIN numbers do not necessarily match depending on country of origin though the frame number will match the VIN plate or you have trouble.

There is a Suzuki Frame (NOT VIN) Number Decoder available on the web.Seek and ye shall find! I keep doing all your work for you but you ignore
everything unless you can make something usually BS about it.

And I have answered everything although its none of your business, unlike you. You did not even say when and where that Hasseman bike was sold from etc.
If you want everything buy the bike. As was pointed out to you yesterday there is a no green or grey book DRZ in Chaing Mai for 147k. Do your book magic
or buy one and it will cost you circa 190k - 300k depending on book type. A little bit different to what you quoted but the Hasseman sounded like a nice piece of kit.
You already have the contacts to get grey books and you know the prices so whats keeping you??

And as we both know a real Pikey is a con man / confidence trickster / rip off merchant.

A few years back losers from all over the world sat in bars and told their fellow losers they were CIA, SAS, MI 5 or 6, ASIO, Green Berets depending on country of origin
and what they could get away with. Cadge free drinks from the rubes.
After that got old hat they started calling themselves what they thought of as glamorous names like,international man of mystery, global adventurers, explorers and
of course Pikeys to name but a few.
Usually they are found in Pattaya & Phuket and other resort type destinations.
Con men usually hang around where there are a lot of tourists etc. Where did you say you came from before Chiang Mai?? Action too hot down there? Russian competition? :LOL

 

[LivinLOS]

You did not even say when and where that Hasseman bike was sold from etc.

Let me google that for you

 

[LivinLOS]

So to recap your listing..

This is a DRZ400SM.. Except its not longer a supermoto !!
It now runs 17/21 dirt wheels.. Except they are 18/21 !!
It makes 48 bhp.. Except its making probably mid 30s !!
It weight 119 kgs.. Except its 140 !!
It has a legit green book.. Except its a bent Petchaburi plate and frame mod !!

This can be checked out by your family in senior management at Chiang Mai DoT.. Except when they are family friends not family !!

:LOL

Earlier in the thread I said "I dont understand how so many owners dont know their own bikes and paperwork" but I have to say.. This is a new level.. Good job theres a DRZ brain trust to keep digging at facts that dont add up, until the real facts are shown huh ?? Otherwise really dumb stuff could get posted and no one would get called out on it..

I think my work here is done.

 

[BobS]

From screamingeagle - Post #13
"The comment by Brake034 hits the nail on the head once again. Thanks B."

This was your ENTIRE reference to brake's post - and here you explain that you were only referring to a part of his post'

"Bob: I was quoting Brakes' reference to the sale being railroaded nothing else. If you read something and make an assumption the "you make an Ass out of u and me"

I guess that it is always someone else's fault for not understanding what you mean when you fail to explain things completely, eh?

 

[screamingeagle]

So to recap your listing..

This is a DRZ400SM.. Except its not longer a supermoto !! Why because the wheel were changed? If you take your "scary" CB to the track and change wheels is it still a CB??
It now runs 17/21 dirt wheels.. Except they are 18/21 !! Honest mistake and admitted plus you have a 1' size complex. Why?
It makes 48 bhp.. Except its making probably mid 30s !! You are comparing publicly estimated crank HP against dyno readings a tthe rear wheel
It weight 119 kgs.. Except its 140 !! Public web site quoted dry weight vs actual full wet weight
It has a legit green book.. Except its a bent Petchaburi plate and frame mod! Only because you do cannot understand the difference between vin numbers and frame numbers even though you know Suzuki has a frame number decoder.

This can be checked out by your family in senior management at Chiang Mai DoT.. Except when they are family friends not family !! Suggested we get your bikes checked out until you admiited they are bent

:LOL

Earlier in the thread I said "I dont understand how so many owners dont know their own bikes and paperwork" but I have to say.. This is a new level.. Good job theres a DRZ brain trust to keep digging at facts that dont add up, until the real facts are shown huh ?? Otherwise really dumb stuff could get posted and no one would get called out on it.. Except by self appointed morons maybe?

I think my work here is done.

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You were done so long ago.

I will recap some facts for you.

We have a self appointed expert who rides a DRZ around on a bent book (your words). Think you said your brother does too? You publicly acknowledge making your own bent book(s) and selling the bike (s). But that is OK because you are self appointed guardian of bent books right?

You selectively use figures as you think fit to create an illusion that someone other than yourself is incorrect. After this was pointed out you decided to go to the green book issue even though other DRZ's ( & miscellaneous other makes) have not attracted the attention of you as the self appointed public watch dog of recycled books.
Because you have publicly maligned bikes frame numbers vs vin numbers because you have stuffed up so many times there too and though you personally know this bike you pretend otherwise and when caught out again you say because the wheels are changed it is no longer an SM even though you know it is. You even started on the brakes but realised you were on thin ground.

Even your regular readers and supporters understand that dry and wet weight / crank vs dyno HP are different yet using both and pretending they are the same just to score some brownie points when yo uare so wrong. Come on now.

What's next in your pathetic attempts? Get in your caravan (Pikey), hitch up the horses and go looking for some more easy tourists to fleece??

 

[screamingeagle]

From screamingeagle - Post #13
"The comment by Brake034 hits the nail on the head once again. Thanks B."

This was your ENTIRE reference to brake's post - and here you explain that you were only referring to a part of his post'

"Bob: I was quoting Brakes' reference to the sale being railroaded nothing else. If you read something and make an assumption the "you make an Ass out of u and me"

I guess that it is always someone else's fault for not understanding what you mean when you fail to explain things completely, eh?

Bob you are 100% correct. I am getting as bad as the self appointed judge of green books and whats right.

Soz - my mistake which I will try to learn from unlike other people.