Touring and Sport-Touring Tyres Buyers Guide

[bsacbob]

Not a bad review of tyre choices put together by Rider Magazine.

Touring and Sport-Touring Tires Buyers Guide | Rider Magazine

 

[KTMphil]

Any confirm on the V Rubber / Pirelli mt 60 copy, prices and size availability? I saw Pop now is putting them on his Honda CB 500 X's

 

[bsacbob]

The Burning Shop in CNX is selling them for 3,300 baht a set !!!

 

[jimbobs]

I need a rear tyre for my versys
Kawasaki has quoted 6800b
Any where else I can try for a better price

 

[Lone Rider]

I need a rear tyre for my versys
Kawasaki has quoted 6800b
Any where else I can try for a better price

Bloody hell, are they asking that for the rear tyre only? That is as much as I pay for one of the tyres on my truck. Guess a good quality rear tyre for the Versys should not be more than about 4000 Baht

 

[Lone Rider]

I need a rear tyre for my versys
Kawasaki has quoted 6800b
Any where else I can try for a better price

Bloody hell, are they asking that for the rear tyre only? That is as much as I pay for one of the tyres on my truck. Guess a good quality rear tyre for the Versys should not be more than about 4000 Baht

 

[jimbobs]

It's a lot more expensive than the uk
But it looks like that's what I will be paying

 

[lakota]

Any confirm on the V Rubber / Pirelli mt 60 copy, prices and size availability? I saw Pop now is putting them on his Honda CB 500 X's

Anyone ridden one of POP's Cb500 X's with the V rubber MT60 copy ?

Bsacbob mentioned the burning shop was selling them for 3,300 a set. surely not for the CB500X !?

My Scorpion Trails only have a few thousand K's left on them and I need to consider a replacement.

 

[bsacbob]

Anyone ridden one of POP's Cb500 X's with the V rubber MT60 copy ?

Bsacbob mentioned the burning shop was selling them for 3,300 a set. surely not for the CB500X !?

My Scorpion Trails only have a few thousand K's left on them and I need to consider a replacement.

Is that a double negative, i think you already answered your own question

 

[lakota]

No there's a couple of questions there ' Angry Bob' . Double negative or not. My questions are still unanswered.
maybe I'm on the wrong forum. not being an 'Elite' adventure Rider and all

 

[bsacbob]

No there's a couple of questions there ' Angry Bob' . Double negative or not. My questions are still unanswered.
maybe I'm on the wrong forum. not being an 'Elite' adventure Rider and all

Ok let me see, Pop is fitting them to his 500x machines.

Yes Burning in CNX is selling them for 3,300 baht.

Next

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[lakota]

Has anyone ridden one of POP's CB500x with the V-Rubber MT60 copy type tire ? .... Interested in how they handle

 

[bsacbob]

Has anyone ridden one of POP's CB500x with the V-Rubber MT60 copy type tire ? .... Interested in how they handle

Not a 500X but.

http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-forum/thailand-ride-reports/5820-6-bikes-mon-chan-samoeng.html

Look at post #9

 

[lakota]

Thanks. I'll have to get down and check out POPs tires myself. found a youtube video in Thai which seems to suggest a bit of adjustment is required to the front mud guard.The MT60 RS Corsa's are undoubtedly a superior tyre especially on hard cornering but as I'm a plodder with huge chicken strips I wouldn't do them justice and they are 4x the price of the Vee-rubber ones and would wear 4x faster. Just want some tires that handle the 'unexpected' Thai road conditions during the roadworks season better than the current Scorpion trails. 30 Kms of mud or 30 km's of Gravel , that sort of thing.

 

[skeedary]

Thanks. I'll have to get down and check out POPs tires myself. found a youtube video in Thai which seems to suggest a bit of adjustment is required to the front mud guard.The MT60 RS Corsa's are undoubtedly a superior tyre especially on hard cornering but as I'm a plodder with huge chicken strips I wouldn't do them justice and they are 4x the price of the Vee-rubber ones and would wear 4x faster. Just want some tires that handle the 'unexpected' Thai road conditions during the roadworks season better than the current Scorpion trails. 30 Kms of mud or 30 km's of Gravel , that sort of thing.

Hi Mark, with tyres i think it is a case of you will get value only if you pay for it. Motorbike tyres have always been more expensive than car tyres wherever you are. I wouldn't put too much faith on what Pop's does on his bikes as he goes for the cheapest and does minimal maintenance. The Scorpions that you already have will give good mileage and safety and in the long run better value than the 3300 baht pretenders.

Gary

 

[bikesncats]

It's a lot more expensive than the uk
But it looks like that's what I will be paying

I wouldn't pay that kind of money...Roy Et has a few good tire shops (like Surin does)...any Michelin or Cockpit Shop will be able to get Heidenau tires for you (not sure about V-rubber I never tired but then again, I doubt that a K60 is what you're looking for). In my opinion you would be best served with the K76 from Heidenau...these tires are excellent quality for the money and a single rear should be around 3k.

 

[lakota]

your probably right Gary, the Scorpion Trails are most likely a lot better tire than I give them credit for. I'm used to more offroad biased tires like on the KLX but they have been on some difficult terrain and haven't let me down so it's probably more to do with the Rider ;-)

 

[jimbobs]

I am back in LOS tomorrow and i have found a tyre off a shop in BKK
It is the original brand tyre that came with the Versys for 5350b + 200b delivery
That is quite a saving on the 6900b that Kawasaki wanted
This is his email address, toger05@yahoo.com he is in BKK and he answers Email

 

[KTMphil]

I am back in LOS tomorrow and i have found a tyre off a shop in BKK
It is the original brand tyre that came with the Versys for 5350b + 200b delivery
That is quite a saving on the 6900b that Kawasaki wanted
This is his email address, toger05@yahoo.com he is in BKK and he answers Email

That's the Big Bendum chap

 

[bill]

The Veerubber 387 Traveler sport-touring tire gets a mention.
Are these avail in Thailand ?
I'm after 180/55-17 and 120/70-17.

 

[bill]

I'm in Fang tonight, working my way around to Nan, then I reckon I'll need new tires before returning to Cambodia.

Reading thru the threads it seems Cockpit in Hang Dong CM are a popular place to get sport bike tires sourced and fitted/balanced.
Thinking Michelin Pilot Road 2's 120/70-17 frt, 180/55-17 rear, or something equivalent.

Does anyone have Cockpits email or mobile number
Would be good if I can check in advance to see if they have what I want in stock.

 

[Lone Rider]

Cockpit Sai Nua - Try 053-805252-4 and Fax 053-806634. They are located on Rd 108 on the same side as Chiangmai Airport about 800 meters past Tesco Lotus which is on the other side of the road and more or less opposite the Honda dealer. Coordinates N18.75353 E98.96652

 

[BobS]

Copied this over from another thread.

Saw a sign for Pirelli Big Bike Service, so I stopped in today. Turns out that they have been open for 11 months. They do some repairs, and have some stock in accessories and Pirelli tires. Most important, they do have a spin ballancer.

They are on the 2nd ring road south of town - between the canal and Hang Dong Road, directly across from the Grand Siritara condos.

Contact info - MIX Motor bike shop, 080 675 0028, 080 500 3111, mix.motorbike@gmail.com

 

[bill]

LR, Bob
Thx for the info.
Will update if/when I have a result.

 

[Captain_Slash]

Thinking Michelin Pilot Road 2's 120/70-17 frt, 180/55-17 rear, or something equivalent.
QUOTE]

I am using Pilot Road 4's in the UK, brilliant tyres, why do you want the 2's if the 4's are available in your sizes

 

[bill]

Thinking Michelin Pilot Road 2's 120/70-17 frt, 180/55-17 rear, or something equivalent.
QUOTE]

I am using Pilot Road 4's in the UK, brilliant tyres, why do you want the 2's if the 4's are available in your sizes

I'm going for longevity since where I live (Cambodia) is relatively flat. If I understand it correctly, the Pilot Road 2's last longer than the 4's ?

 

[Captain_Slash]

I don't know where you heard that from, each time Michelin upgrade a tyre it has to match or exceed its predecessor in every category.

The Pilot Road 3's were the benchmark in wet weather grip and the 4's are at least as good if not better in that respect but last even longer.

I also go for longevity but still want a good handling and gripping tyre and prefer Michelins or Avons

I had a few e-mail exchanges with Tony Charlton concerning which tyres to put on my CB 500F, heres what he said

The Pilot Road is a single compound tyre, and though durable would offer slightly less mileage than the other tyres in the range, and doesn't benefit from having softer compounds on the sides of the tyre for better grip when cornering. The Pilot Road 2 and Pilot Road 3 are fairly evenly matched for tyre life, the big advantage of the Pilot Road 3 is it's better wet weather performance. The Pilot Road 4 builds on this, and according to our internal tests averages about 20% more life than the Pilot Road 3, so this should give you the best life.

In all seriousness though, the Pilot Road 3 has been the benchmark in wet weather grip since it came out, without any detriment to dry weather performance. When we develop a new tyre within a range it's key that the new tyre must be at least as good as the old tyre in all aspects, and improve upon it in the defined key areas that we've identified. For the Road 4 that has meant an improvement in dry weather handling, an increase in longevity and improving wet weather grip even further.

We generally look at all the competitor tyres and try to beat the best in each of it's strength areas to produce an all round top notch tyre. Every manufacturer moves the game on with each development of their tyres, so you really do get a good choice of quality tyres. Most specialise in one or two areas, and we consistently top the scores in independent tests on wet weather performance and braking, but we don't compromise on longevity in order to do that. We are still the only manufacturer able to create such a heavily siped tyre that lasts as well as anything else out there.

I hope that helps,

Kind regards,

Tony Charlton
Michelin 2 Wheel

 

[bill]

P4's sound good, and that's what Big Bendum had in stock too.

The tires on the bike still have some miles left in them so I opted to have the new tires sent to Trat where I would pick them up on my way back from Chiang Mai to Cambodia. Shipping to Trat was an extra Bt 200
Ferrying them over the border on the back of the bike.



Process went smoothly. Tires were delivered to my hotel in Trat and a followup call between Big Bendum and Freight company driver to confirm I got them ok. Would use his service again.

 

[Captain_Slash]

How much were the PR4s Bill?

 

[bill]

How much were the PR4s Bill?

Big Bendum charged me Bt 12,650 for a set of rear 180/55-17 and frt 120/70-17 PR4s + Bt 200 delivery to Trat.

Cockpit CM quoted Bt 13,000 for a set of Michelin PR3s or Pirelli Angel GTs including fitting amd balancing.

 

[Captain_Slash]

Pretty much the same as what I paid in the UK, on the first corner I discovered that they were vastly superior to the OE tyres on my Honda CB 500F

 

[bill]

Pretty much the same as what I paid in the UK, on the first corner I discovered that they were vastly superior to the OE tyres on my Honda CB 500F

Worked out to ~USD400 for the set.
Online merchants in the States have them for ~USD322 a set.
In Australia, around USD460 at current conversion rate.
So not bad pricing for Thailand.