A worry in the local CNX hills

bigntall

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An issue we all need to be concerned about. Years ago when I came over as a tourist to CNX i rented an XR 250 and hired a gent named Ya to take me bashing about the bush surrounding the city. Ya took me up to Doi Sutthep with 10 other Thai gents and thrashed me about the hills for a day. The camraderie, terrain, and easy access from the city is a key reason why I chose CNX to reside. Easy dirt biking from my front door.

Well the times are a changing it seems and not for the better. Much like the 60's transition from gals wearing mini skirts to bloody bell bottom jeans all is not peaches and cream on the horizon. There are signs posted at various access roads leading up the mountain. These are the paths one typically uses on their dirt bikes to get onto the mountain. Here's one of the signs.

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Here's a close-up of the sign that concerns us.

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As you can see it is both in English and in Thai. Bottom line no offroad bikes allowed on the mountain of Doi Sutthep. Not certain roads but the whole mountain. We are fortunate enough to have had access to riding in a National Park like Sutthep. It may be coming to an end which will impose a serious life changing event for myself and I know others that enjoy off road recreation. We can most definitely sneak in here and there but that is not the point. It is a trend that i believe we as riders need to work with diplomatically so that it does not progress farther and potentially reverse. Luke and I had a chat with the ranger and discussed some details on what the issues were concerning the ban, people, who made the riding illegal and why etc. We know who to contact and I would like to have a sitdown with the local riders to put our heads together and come up with a proposal that addresses the issues the National Park has with riding and what we can do proactively to maintain access to the park by working with the park staff.

I'll add more of what we do know a bit later but most everything at this point is unknown. I'd like to get CNX riders that use Sutthep regularly together for a chin wag and start outlining some potential thoughts and then set-up a meeting with the head honcho.


Whom wants to be included in this topic and who is not in Chiang Mai currently that wants access to Sutthep?

I know John S, Darren B. are out until next week.
 
Luke and I had a chat with the ranger and discussed some details on what the issues were concerning the ban, people, who made the riding illegal and why etc.


Hi BignTall,

And what were the concerns expressed by the Ranger?
 
Happy to get together and see what can be done to keep them sweet..
 
That looks like the dirt trail that starts off the Samoeng rd 1269.

There use to be a thai guy that sat in the little shack and stopped people riding bikes through but he seems to have gone now?

That trail is popular for walking.
 
If that's on the Samoeng road, then that sign has been there for at least a year. The guard has never stopped me from entering. As long as the roads are open to motor vehicle traffic, not sure how they would shut down the whole Doi Suthep area.

As always, don't be an asshole to officials and local residents. Don't be overly loud. Consider not sharing GPS tracks and info on more sensitive areas on the internet and with tourists. General common sense.
 
There's a similar sign somewhere near the "Last Man Standing" trail i've been told, as far as we're aware. no trail rider has been chased off the mountain by park rangers to date.
 
An issue we all need to be concerned about. Years ago when I came over as a tourist to CNX i rented an XR 250 and hired a gent named Ya to take me bashing about the bush surrounding the city. Ya took me up to Doi Sutthep with 10 other Thai gents and thrashed me about the hills for a day. The camraderie, terrain, and easy access from the city is a key reason why I chose CNX to reside. Easy dirt biking from my front door.

Well the times are a changing it seems and not for the better. Much like the 60's transition from gals wearing mini skirts to bloody bell bottom jeans all is not peaches and cream on the horizon. There are signs posted at various access roads leading up the mountain. These are the paths one typically uses on their dirt bikes to get onto the mountain. Here's one of the signs.

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Here's a close-up of the sign that concerns us.

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As you can see it is both in English and in Thai. Bottom line no offroad bikes allowed on the mountain of Doi Sutthep. Not certain roads but the whole mountain. We are fortunate enough to have had access to riding in a National Park like Sutthep. It may be coming to an end which will impose a serious life changing event for myself and I know others that enjoy off road recreation. We can most definitely sneak in here and there but that is not the point. It is a trend that i believe we as riders need to work with diplomatically so that it does not progress farther and potentially reverse. Luke and I had a chat with the ranger and discussed some details on what the issues were concerning the ban, people, who made the riding illegal and why etc. We know who to contact and I would like to have a sitdown with the local riders to put our heads together and come up with a proposal that addresses the issues the National Park has with riding and what we can do proactively to maintain access to the park by working with the park staff.

I'll add more of what we do know a bit later but most everything at this point is unknown. I'd like to get CNX riders that use Sutthep regularly together for a chin wag and start outlining some potential thoughts and then set-up a meeting with the head honcho.


Whom wants to be included in this topic and who is not in Chiang Mai currently that wants access to Sutthep?

I know John S, Darren B. are out until next week.

As Alex said I've never been asked to leave either and have passed plenty of park rangers at that gate and while crawling up LMS.

But this isssue should be addresed.

The trials boys have a good idea, they formed a club (CM Trails Club) and had photo ID cards made.

Paul knows the exact details, but I think he said a high ranking rozzer was involved in the club and when they have any drama they show them this ID card which seemed to work?
 
Not sure pulling out your NOB card is going to help ;)
 
I think the idea is nthis:

Park Ranger stops scooter,
scooterist pulls out CMTC card with phone number of local important rozzer,
ranger calls rozzer,
rozzer bollocks ranger,
scooterist rides of in bliss.

Failing that a face full of dirt delivered 2 stroke style would probably suffice.
 
Yeah I get the idea.. Was just unable to resist trying to get a nob joke in..
 
I think that's an excellent idea LUFC. especially with the current state of affairs on DST. When you're back lets sit down with a few others and put this together.


I think the idea is nthis:

Park Ranger stops scooter,
scooterist pulls out CMTC card with phone number of local important rozzer,
ranger calls rozzer,
rozzer bollocks ranger,
scooterist rides of in bliss.

Failing that a face full of dirt delivered 2 stroke style would probably suffice.
 
Essential ingredient tho is a high ranking copper who will be at the end of the phone..

I had contacts down south who could help but does anyone up here have a friendly cop who would offer to do it ??

Without that its a nice idea.. but..
 
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